From erik@sran8.sra.co.jp Thu Dec 13 14:17:24 1990 Received: from mcsun.EU.net by dkuug.dk via EUnet with SMTP (5.64+/8+bit/IDA-1.2.8) id AA01493; Thu, 13 Dec 90 14:17:24 +0100 Received: by mcsun.EU.net with SMTP; Thu, 13 Dec 90 14:16:28 +0100 Received: from srava.sra.co.jp by srawgw.sra.co.jp (5.64WH/1.4) id AA22795; Thu, 13 Dec 90 22:15:26 +0900 Received: from sran8.sra.co.jp by srava.sra.co.jp (5.64b/6.4J.6-BJW) id AA00668; Thu, 13 Dec 90 21:43:18 +0900 Received: from localhost by sran8.sra.co.jp (4.0/6.4J.6-SJ) id AA23964; Thu, 13 Dec 90 21:38:52 JST Return-Path: Message-Id: <9012131239.AA23964@sran8.sra.co.jp> Reply-To: erik@sra.co.jp From: Erik M. van der Poel To: i18n@dkuug.dk Cc: XoTGinter@xopen.co.uk Subject: Re: (i18n 46) Re: Japanese Profile Date: Thu, 13 Dec 90 21:38:50 +0900 Sender: erik@sran8.sra.co.jp X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 > > The interpretation of ellipsis (...) depends on underlying encoding. > > For example my definition will work for encoding so-called 7-bit- > > JIS (which are used in JUNET) as well as UJIS, but will not on > > Shift-JIS nor Kanji codes which are not based on JIS X0208. > > > > Sekiguchi > > I don't think it is a question of whether or not it will "work". If > the system is implemented properly, it should collate even Shift-JIS > exactly as you specify in your ellipsis definitions. Of course, it > cannot be as efficient as JIS, since there is no one-to-one > relationship between the collation definition and the Shift-JIS code. > > Erik Oops, I just realized that I made a mistake. The character ranges in LC_COLLATE are *not* based on the symbolic names in the ranges, they are based on the encodings of the characters. I was thinking of the *charmap* proposal, where the ranges *are* based on the names, e.g.: ... Now I'm beginning to wonder about the LC_COLLATE specs. The charmap concept was introduced in order to be able to free the locale definitions of any encoding dependencies. Yet, the LC_COLLATE ellipsis specs are explicitly encoding dependent. Isn't this rather inconsistent? Erik