From wgd1@cam.ac.uk Mon Jun 12 06:55:51 1995 Received: from bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk by dkuug.dk with SMTP id AA18315 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for ); Mon, 12 Jun 1995 16:55:58 +0200 Received: from cam.ac.uk [131.111.132.8] by bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.0 #36) id m0sLAu6-000C1AC; Mon, 12 Jun 95 15:55 BST Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 15:55:51 -0900 (PDT) From: Graham Dixon To: Borka Jerman-Blazic Cc: i18n@dkuug.dk Subject: Re: (i18n.269) Re: Re: Welsh Character Set X-Sender: wgd1@imap.cus.cam.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <199506121333.AA28217@pehtra.e5.ijs.si> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 On Mon, 12 Jun 1995, Borka Jerman-Blazic wrote: > > On June 12th M.G.Dixon wrote: > > > On Sat, 10 Jun 1995, Keld J|rn Simonsen wrote: > > > > > gwm@austin.ibm.com writes: > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me which of the ISO 8859 codesets contain the > > > > Welsh character set? Or, which other codeset(s) contain the Welsh > > > > character set? > > > > > > The only one is know of is ISO/IEC 10646-1 (and thus UNICODE). > > > As far as I know no 8859 set has full Welch repertoire, > > > it is especially the etc that is missing. Even ISO 6937 > > > does not cover this, while it actually could. > > > > > > Keld > > > > > Keld Simonsen's information is not quite right. There is a specific Welsh > > character set in the ISO 2375 Register: > > > > ISO-IR 182, "Welsh variant of Latin Alphabet No.1 (right-hand part)", > > > > registered on 1994-03-16 and sponsored by British Standards Institution > > (BSI). The originators are: > > > > Welsh Joint Education Committee, Treforest, Mid-Glamorgan, CF37 5US, Wales. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Graham Dixon > > ----------------------------- > > > > I think that Keld is right. The question was which part of ISO 8859 > contains welsh character set? > > The answer is none. No, part of ISO 8859 as international standard contains > the requested 4 letters of the welsh alphabet. So, Keld is right. > > The registration of a character set code according to ISO 2375 does not mean > that the registered character set is a part of ISO 8859 until this part > is accepted by ISO as ISO 8859 part and such code will never be the part. 1 > of ISO 8859! > > What the Welsh have done is just a national version of the right part of > ISO 8859/1. Many countries have registered their national versions -variants of > ISO 646 and they are never declared as ISO 646 parts ! > > Regards, > > Borka > Borka, Please read the original message. The original question continued: "Or, which other codeset(s) contain the Welsh character set?". I have replied to that. You cannot dispute that an ISO 2375 registered character set is a codeset within the meaning of this question, surely. Graham Dixon ----------------------- E-mail: WGD1@cam.ac.uk (phx.cam.ac.uk still works but will shortly cease) Tel: +44 1223 336149 (direct line) +44 1223 336185 (secretary) Fax: +44 1223 336220 (my office only) +44 1223 336180 (central plain-paper fax) Postal: Dr W G Dixon, Churchill College, CAMBRIDGE, CB3 0DS, England