From asmusf@microsoft.com Mon May 2 02:58:50 1994 Received: from netmail2.microsoft.com by dkuug.dk with SMTP id AA01348 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for ); Mon, 2 May 1994 20:02:11 +0200 Received: by netmail2.microsoft.com (5.65/25-eef) id AA08823; Mon, 2 May 94 10:03:37 -0700 Message-Id: <9405021703.AA08823@netmail2.microsoft.com> Received: by netmail2 using fxenixd 1.0 Mon, 02 May 94 10:03:37 PDT X-Msmail-Message-Id: 256D064E X-Msmail-Conversation-Id: 256D064E From: Asmus Freytag To: cpwg-mail@revcan.rct.ca, i18n@dkuug.dk, iso10646@jhuvm.hcf.jhu.edu, SC22WG20-request@dkuug.dk, tc304@dkuug.dk Date: Mon, 2 May 94 09:58:50 PDT Subject: RE: (SC22WG20.895) With this, Spanish would be near to 6-language ordering, but... X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 Alain, you got it almost right: With this, the international default ordering should be set up so that it treats Spanish n-tilde the Spanish way, even if the French would do it differently :-) A./ ---------- | From: Subject: (SC22WG20.895) With this, Spanish would be near to 6-language ordering, but... | Date: Monday, May 02, 1994 1:57PM | | | ---------- | With this (see annex), on which my opinion is neutral, Spanish comes near to | the 6-language group of ordering, but they still have the N TILDE difference, | which is sufficient to make it special. This is of course not a problem to me. | Adaptation will still be useful in any such international standard. | | Alain LaBont | editor, project ISO/IEC 22.30.02.02 | | Message original: | ============================================================================== | A: RNET (SC22WG20@DKUUG.DK), ALB | De: RNET (fortran@VNET.IBM.COM) | Objet: (SC22WG20.894) An alternate algorithm for internationalized sorting | Date: lun 2 mai 94 | Heure: 09:02 TU | Type: Mail | Livraison: Reguliere | ============================================================================== | Or, why didn't WG20 think of this? From an Associated Press article in | last Fridays paper: | | Madrid, Spain (AP) -- The world's more than 300 million Spanish speakers | now have two fewer letters in their alphabet to worry about, a mostly | bookeeping move that won almost unanimous support but disturbed some | traditionalists. | The Association of Spanish Language Academies, meeting in Madrid ... | voted this week to eliminate the "Ch" and "Ll" from the Spanish alphabet. | The two letters, which historically have had their own separate headings | in dictionaries, now will be listed under other letters. Words beginning | "Ch", like "chico", will fall under the letter "C", and words beginning with | "Ll", like "llama", will fall under the letter "L". | The move does not change pronunciation, usage or spelling. It was taken | mainly to simplify dictionaries and make Spanish more computer compatible | with English. | Pushing for the change was Spain, a member of the 12-nation European Union. | The EU has urged its members to implement measures that aid translation and | computer standardization. | ... | The Spanish alphabet now has 27 letters -- the 26 contained in the | alphabet plus a stylized "n". | | Thanks, Dick Weaver | IBM M77/E365,555 Bailey Ave,PO 49023,San Jose Ca 95161-9023 | internet: fortran@vnet.ibm.com | 408-463-2956, fax ...-3114 | |