From ALB%SEAS@liverpool.ac.uk Tue Jan 21 01:26:29 1992 Received: from danpost2.uni-c.dk by dkuug.dk via EUnet with SMTP (5.64+/8+bit/IDA-1.2.8) id AA06762; Tue, 21 Jan 92 01:26:29 +0100 Received: from vm.uni-c.dk by danpost2.uni-c.dk (5.65/1.34) id AA27561; Tue, 21 Jan 92 00:26:12 GMT Message-Id: <9201210026.AA27561@danpost2.uni-c.dk> Received: from vm.uni-c.dk by vm.uni-c.dk (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with BSMTP id 6990; Tue, 21 Jan 92 01:26:04 DNT Received: from UKACRL.BITNET by vm.uni-c.dk (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 8723; Tue, 21 Jan 92 01:26:03 DNT Received: from RL.IB by UKACRL.BITNET (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 5208; Tue, 21 Jan 92 00:26:30 GMT Received: from RL.IB by UK.AC.RL.IB (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 0481; Tue, 21 Jan 92 00:26:29 GMT Via: UK.AC.LIV.IBM; 21 JAN 92 0:26:26 GMT Received: from ALB@SEAS by MAILER(4.1.a); 21 Jan 1992 00:27:24 GM Addressed-To: I18N@EARN.DK.DKUUG Via MAILER Addressed-From: ALAIN_LA_BONTE (Alain LaBonte O1 418 644 1835) Subject: Names of ideographs - Mnemonics wanted by a desperate Westerner who loves the Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1992 00:25 GMT To: I18N@DKUUG.DK From: ALB X-Charset: ASCII X-Char-Esc: 29 :I can easily guess what :":" would be called but I have no idea what symbolic name of "Kuro", the first :character of my family name, is. I'd have to look it up in the JIS :standard book anyway. So why don't we just use the codepont itself? :-kuro (JISX0208_39x75-:) This confirms what I always told to SC2. I even proposed a name based on the number of strokes of each radical (if my memory is good SC2/WG3 N 125), but the Japanese told me that they could not agree on Chinese methods, which don't count the same way as the Japanese. With today's method, they said, they will need a piece of software to retrieve a character's coding given its shape. My method would have been useful for all (Westerners, Japanese, Chinese and Koreans): given the shape, and agreed an international method (that was part of the problem between the Asians), one could have approximately but accurately enough to look in a list, retrieved the name of the character, and hence, its coding. Given the coding (and we are back to today's method, which I hate, being a lover of Chinese characters with enough notions of Chinese to write a letter), of course, it's easy to find the character, but the reverse is still not true... Alain LaBont/e Minist\ere des Communications du Qu/ebec