From rinehuls@Radix.Net Wed Dec 9 23:29:36 1998 Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [209.48.224.31]) by dkuug.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA28146; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 23:29:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rinehuls@Radix.Net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [209.48.224.40]) by mail1.radix.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA25113; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:29:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:28:20 -0500 (EST) From: William Rinehuls To: sc22docs@dkuug.dk cc: keld simonsen Subject: SC22 N2858 - SC22 Response to JTC 1 re Electronic Commerce Business Team Report Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ______________________ beginning of title page ________________________ ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Programming languages, their environments and system software interfaces Secretariat: U.S.A. (ANSI) ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 N2858 TITLE: SC22 Response to JTC 1 N5437, Request for National Body and Subcommittee Comments on Document JTC 1 N5296, Electronic Commerce Business Team Report DATE ASSIGNED: 1998-12-09 SOURCE: Secretariat, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 BACKWARD POINTER: N/A DOCUMENT TYPE: Disposition of Comments Report PROJECT NUMBER: N/A STATUS: N/A ACTION IDENTIFIER: FYI DUE DATE: N/A DISTRIBUTION: Text CROSS REFERENCE: SC22 N2735, N2806 (res.98-3) DISTRIBUTION FORM: Text Address reply to: ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Secretariat William C. Rinehuls 8457 Rushing Creek Court Springfield, VA 22153 USA Telephone: +1 (703) 912-9680 Fax: +1 (703) 912-2973 email: rinehuls@radix.net ______________ end of title page; beginning of contribution __________ ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Programming languages, their environments and system software interfaces Secretariat: U.S.A. (ANSI) Subject: SC22 Response to JTC 1 N 5437, Request for National Body and Subcommittee Comments on Document JTC 1 N 5296, Electronic Commerce Business Team Report Introduction SC 22 appreciates the comprehensive work done by the Business Team on Electronic Commerce in JTC 1 N 5296. The issues of localization, multi-lingualism and cultural adaptability in the Electronic Commerce Business Team Report are the ones most relevant to SC 22. Our Working Group 20 is assigned responsibility in this area. SC 22 offers the following comments, developed by SC 22/WG 20, for consideration by JTC 1: Comments The concept of localization and concept of multilingualism should be conceptually separated in section 6.3. JTC 1 should investigate models for cultural adaptability that go beyond the C/C++/POSIX locale concepts. WG 20 agrees with the statements in 12.3 about the inadequacy of standards for language and territory codes, and would like to recommend to JTC 1 that these problems be resolved, since they are a block to proper enablement of electronic commerce. A number of JTC 1 standards are using these concepts and the lack of adequate definitions for them severely damages the usability of the JTC 1 standards. WG 20 would like to draw the attention to another area that is not mentioned in the report, namely the precise identification and IT enablement specifications for coded character sets and encodings. The void here could be solved by reference to ISO/IEC 15897 charmap registrations. IETF has required that all new Internet protocols can handle UTF-8 and we recommend that this decision be taken into account. WG 20 has developed ISO/IEC TR 11017 Framework for internationalization, which should guide JTC 1 for further work in the area of cultural and linguistic adaptability. WG 20 is developing a standard on sorting (FCD 14651), a specification method for cultural conventions (CD 14652), and an API specification (WD 15435) to support IS 14651 and IS 14652, which we recommend for IT enablement in JTC 1 with respect to cultural and linguistic adaptability and character set handling. The cultural registry standard (IS 15897) is recommended as a source for the data for this IT enablement. These specifications should be included in the list of relevant standards for Electronic Commerce: TR 11017 Framework for internationalization FCD 14651 International string ordering CD 14652 Specification method for cultural conventions WD 15435 Internationalization API IS 15897 Registry of cultural elements WG 20 strongly supports the quest for IT enablement of international standards, and it is the intent of WG 20 to cooperate with the rest of JTC 1 SCs to further develop our standards to accommodate the needs for Electronic Commerce. Further information on WG 20, including information on contacts and on the standards, can be found on http://www.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc22/wg 20/ ____________________ end of SC22 N2858 ______________________________