From rinehuls@access.digex.net Fri Nov 6 23:35:13 1998 Received: from access2.digex.net (qlrhmEbBUV1EY@access2.digex.net [205.197.245.193]) by dkuug.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA00474; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 23:35:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rinehuls@access.digex.net) Received: from localhost (rinehuls@localhost) by access2.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA10943; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 17:35:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 17:35:38 -0500 (EST) From: "william c. rinehuls" To: sc22docs@dkuug.dk cc: brenda hops , keld simonsen Subject: SC22 N2839 - Comments Disposition on DIS 14519 - POSIX Ada Interfaces - Realtime Extensions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ________________ beginning of title page ________________________ ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Programming languages, their environments and system software interfaces Secretariat: U.S.A. (ANSI) ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 N2839 TITLE: Disposition of Comments Report for ISO/IEC DIS 14519: Information technology - POSIX Ada Language Interfaces - Binding for System Application Program Interface (API) - Realtime Extensions (Revision of ISO/IEC 14519-1:1994) - Fast-track Process DATE ASSIGNED: 1998-11-06 SOURCE: Secretariat, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 BACKWARD POINTER: N/A DOCUMENT TYPE: Disposition of Comments Report PROJECT NUMBER: JTC 1.22.21.04.02 STATUS: N/A ACTION IDENTIFIER: FYI DUE DATE: N/A DISTRIBUTION: text CROSS REFERENCE: SC22 N2684 DISTRIBUTION FORM: Def Address reply to: ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Secretariat William C. Rinehuls 8457 Rushing Creek Court Springfield, VA 22153 USA Telephone: +1 (703) 912-9680 Fax: +1 (703) 912-2973 email: rinehuls@access.digex.net ______________ end of title page; beginning of report ___________________ Disposition of Comments Report for ISO/IEC DIS 14519 - Information technology - POSIX Ada Language Interfaces - Binding for System Application Program Interface (API) - Realtime Extensions (Revision of ISO/IEC 14519-1:1994) Four comments were received, and are recorded below, together with the disposition. Comment from France: | AFNOR votes NO to ISO/IEC DIS 14519. | AFNOR will reverse its vote if the comment on the French title is | adopted. | Proposed change: | Change the French title for the following: | | Technologies de l'Information - Interfaces POSIX pour le language | Ada - Couplage avec l'Interface de programmation syste\me (API) - | Extensions temps r/eel. Disposition: This change is accepted in principle. However, in view of the proposed change to the English title (below) to reflect the fact that the document contains more than the real-time extensions, a representative of AFNOR was invited to make a corresponding change to the proposed French title. The result is the following, which we propose to use: "Technologies de l'Information - Interfaces POSIX pour le language Ada - Couplage avec l'Interface de programmation syste\me (API) Incluant les extensions temps re/el" Comment from the UK: | The UK advises that the WG15/IEEE synchronization plan should be | closely followed to ensure that the correct drafts are used. Disposition: The balloted DIS is identical to the final published IEEE and ANSI standard. Comment from the USA: | The USNB believes that a more appropriate (English) Title for this | document when it is published as ISO/IEC 14519 would be as follows: | | POSIX Ada Language Interfaces - Binding for System Application | Interfaces (API) including Realtime Extensions. Disposition: This comment is accepted. The document forwarded to ITTF for publication will contain the text of the IEEE/ANSI Standard, with the title modified as above. Comment from Canada: | On Ada bindings, no, as this does not meet our international | requirements. It incorporates rather than references another | existing standard ("thick" binding vs. "thin" binding) without | demonstrating how synchronization is to be maintained, and it | lacks market relevance.) Disposition: This comment does not permit any resolution. However, the following responses are provided for the record. Regarding Canada's international requirements: since those are not stated no response is possible. Regarding the thick vs. thin binding issue: that was settled long before this revision, in 1994, when the original 14519 was approved; the issue was debated extensively within ISO WG15 and IEEE PASC balloting group, and there was a persistent strong consensus for the thick binding approach; this consensus was later strengthened by the lack of progress on POSIX language-independent specifications. Regarding synchronization: how the standard will be maintained is well demonstrated by the existence of the current revision, which brings the Ada binding fully into synchronization with the ISO-approved C-language bindings for POSIX, and by the POSIX.5c standard which is in IEEE ballot. Regarding market relevance: the Ada market is small, but persistent; the portability and reliability that come from strong standardization are among Ada's selling points to that market; even in Canada, Ada and POSIX are reputed to be used together for air traffic control. ____________________ end of SC22 N2839 _______________________________