From rinehuls@access.digex.net Tue Jun 30 00:42:48 1998 Received: from access2.digex.net (qlrhmEbBUV1EY@access2.digex.net [205.197.245.193]) by dkuug.dk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA05169 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 1998 00:42:45 +0200 Received: from localhost (rinehuls@localhost) by access2.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA15906 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:44:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 18:44:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "william c. rinehuls" To: sc22docs@dkuug.dk Subject: SC22 N2744 - Summary of Voting on PDAM1 to IS 14515-1 - POSIX System API Realtime Extension (C Language) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII _____________________ beginning of title page ________________________ ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Programming languages, their environments and system software interfaces Secretariat: U.S.A. (ANSI) ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 N2744 TITLE: Summary of Voting on PDAM Approval for PDAM1 to IS 14515-1: Information technology - Test Methods Specifications for Measuring Conformance to POSIX - Part 1: System Application Program Interface (API) - Amendment 1: Realtime Extension (C Language) DATE ASSIGNED: 1998-06-29 SOURCE: Secretariat, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 BACKWARD POINTER: N/A DOCUMENT TYPE: Summary of Voting PROJECT NUMBER: JTC 1.22.14515-1.02 STATUS: WG15 is requested to prepare a Disposition of Comments Report and a recommendation on the further processing of the PDAM. ACTION IDENTIFIER: FYI to SC22 Member Bodies ACT to WG15 DUE DATE: N/A DISTRIBUTION: Text CROSS REFERENCE: SC22 N2647 DISTRIBUTION FORM: Def Address reply to: ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Secretariat William C. Rinehuls 8457 Rushing Creek Court Springfield, VA 22153 USA Telephone: +1 (703) 912-9680 Fax: +1 (703) 912-2973 email: rinehuls@access.digex.net _________ end of title page; beginning of overall summary ______________ SUMMARY OF VOTING ON Letter Ballot Reference No: SC22 N2647 Circulated by: JTC 1/SC22 Circulation Date: 1998-02-16 Closing Date: 1998-06-02 Extended to: 1998-06-22 (at the request of Australia) SUBJECT: PDAM Approval Ballot for PDAM1 to IS 14515-1: Information technology - Test Methods Specifications for Measuring Conformance to POSIX - Part 1: System Application Program Interface (API) - Amendment 1: Realtime Extension (C Language) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The following responses have been received on the subject of approval: "P" Members supporting approval without comment 8 "P" Members supporting approval with comment 0 "P" Members not supporting approval 2 "P" Members abstaining: 4 "P" Members not voting: 8 "O" Members supporting approval without comment 1 "O" Members abstaining: 1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Secretariat Action: WG15 is requested to prepare a Disposition of Comments Report and make a recommendation on the further processing of the PDAM. The comment accompanying the abstention vote from France was "Due to lack of resources." The comment accompanying the abstention vote from Netherlands and Sweden was "Due to lack of expertise". The comment accompanying the abstention vote from the USA and the comments accompanying the negative votes from Germany and the United Kingdom are attached. _______________ end of overall summary; beginning of detail summary ____ ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 LETTER BALLOT SUMMARY PROJECT NO: JTC 1.22.14515-1.02 SUBJECT: PDAM Approval Ballot for PDAM1 to IS 14515-1: Information technology - Test Methods Specifications for Measuring Conformance to POSIX - Part 1: System Application Program Interface (API) - Amendment 1: Realtime Extension (C Language) Reference Document No: N2233 Ballot Document No: N2647 Circulation Date: 1998-02-16 Closing Date: 1998-06-02 Extended to: 1998-06-22 (At request of Australia) Circulated To: SC22 P, O, L Circulated By: Secretariat SUMMARY OF VOTING AND COMMENTS RECEIVED Approve Disapprove Abstain Comments Not Voting 'P' Members Australia (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Austria ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) (X) Belgium (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Brazil ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) (X) Canada ( ) ( ) (X) ( ) ( ) China ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) (X) Czech Republic ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) (X) Denmark (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Egypt ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) (X) Finland (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) France ( ) ( ) (X) (X) ( ) Germany ( ) (X) ( ) (X) ( ) Ireland (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Japan (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Netherlands ( ) ( ) (X) (X) ( ) Norway (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Romania ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) (X) Russian Federation ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) (X) Slovenia ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) (X) UK ( ) (X) ( ) (X) ( ) Ukraine (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) USA ( ) ( ) (X) (X) ( ) 'O' Members Voting Korea Republic (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Sweden ( ) ( ) (X) (X) ( ) ________ end of detail summary; beginning of comments _________________ COMMENT ACCOMPANYING THE NEGATIVE VOTE FROM GERMANY "We disapprove the draft for the following reason: In our view the test assertions presented by the PDAM1 are antiquated. There are two realtime test systems used in the global market which are independent from the requirements of the PDAM. So the test assertions of the PDAM are not verifiable by implementations, and the have not passed a quality assurance level. Therefore, we disapprove the PDAM and propose to cancel the project due to a lack of market relevance." COMMENT ACCOMPANYING THE NEGATIVE VOTE FROM UNITED KINGDOM "We have several general concerns against progressing this to the status of an ISO standard. The slow progress of development and the small number of active participants in its development leads to a question of continued market relevance. The development organization should review the progress of this project, assure continued market relevance, consider changes to improve progress, and report back to WG15. Unlike IS 14515, this work is not being validated by implementations of test suites. The lack of validation leads to concerns over the accuracy of the final standard. As such until the accuracy of the standard can be assured we cannot approve this for ISO status." COMMENT ACCOMPANYING THE ABSTENTION VOTE FROM THE USA "A substantial number of Members of the US committee responsible for developing a US position on this document expressed several general concerns against progressing this to the status of an ISO/IEC standard, as expressed below, but the result did not constitute a consensus position. The slow progress of development and the small number of active participants in its development leads to a question of continued market relevance. The development organization should review the progress of this project, assure continued market relevance, consider changes to improve progress and report back to WG15 or alternatively withdraw the work item. Unlike IS 14515, this work is not being validated by implementations of test suites. The lack of validation leads to concerns over the accuracy of the final standard. As such until the accuracy of the standard can be assured, some believe that JTC 1 should withdraw the work item." _______________________ end of SC22 N2744 ______________________________