From rinehuls@access.digex.net Mon Jun 29 23:24:55 1998 Received: from access2.digex.net (qlrhmEbBUV1EY@access2.digex.net [205.197.245.193]) by dkuug.dk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA00303 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 23:24:54 +0200 Received: from localhost (rinehuls@localhost) by access2.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA13517 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:26:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:26:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "william c. rinehuls" To: sc22docs@dkuug.dk Subject: SC22 N2739 - Netherlands National Body Activity Report for August 1998 SC22 Plenary Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ___________________ beginning of title page ______________________________ ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Programming languages, their environments and system software interfaces Secretariat: U.S.A. (ANSI) ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 N2739 TITLE: Netherlands National Body Activity Report for the August 1998 SC22 Plenary DATE ASSIGNED: 1998-06-29 SOURCE: Secretariat, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 BACKWARD POINTER: N/A DOCUMENT TYPE: National Body Activity Report PROJECT NUMBER: N/A STATUS: Discussion of this document will be an agenda item for the August 1998 JTC 1/SC22 Plenary ACTION IDENTIFIER: FYI DUE DATE: N/A DISTRIBUTION: Text CROSS REFERENCE: N/A DISTRIBUTION FORM: Def Address reply to: ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Secretariat William C. Rinehuls 8457 Rushing Creek Court Springfield, VA 22153 USA Telephone: +1 (703) 912-9680 Fax: +1 (703) 912-2973 email: rinehuls@access.digex.net __________ end of title page; beginning of report ____________________ National Activity Report from the Netherlands to the SC22 Plenary, Copenhagen (Denmark) 24-27 August 1998 The Dutch Programming Language Committee has currently 16 members and meets 2-3 times per year to discuss SC22 issues and, when necessary, relevant JTC1 documents. There is active participation from the Netherlands in the SC22 WGs on COBOL, Fortran, Ada, Bindings, C, Modula-2, POSIX and C++. Other SC22 projects, such as APL, M(umps), VDM, Prolog and Internationalization are followed on a more individual basis. With respect to SC22 document N2674 - List of SC22 Standards for Periodic Review in 1999, NNI advises to withdraw ISO/IEC 11730:1994 - Form Interface Management System (FIMS). All other mentioned documents should be re-confirmed. With respect to the voting on ISO/IEC DIS 15897 - Procedures for European Registration of Cultural Elements, NNI notes the following. The original WG20 proposal for an NWI on Cultural Convention Sets Registry (see SC22 N1513) was withdrawn after the ballot (SC22 N1573, result: 5 YES votes, 3 NO votes) by WG20 (the WG20 minutes of their meeting in Oxford mention as decision "tactical withdrawn"; see SC22 N1641). The main reason for the lack of support was that the whole issue of Cultural Conventions was not yet well understood, that the development of the `base' document on Specifications for Cultural Conventions (CD 14652) was still in its early stages (at that time) and that the latter document should first be adopted before the issue of registration could be considered. Therefore, we were very surprised to see that the European Pre-standard ENV 12005 was actually presented for adoption under the fast-track procedure, while CD 14652 is still in the CD stage. From correspondence between Mr. K. Brannon (ITTF) and Mr. B Follett (SC22 Chair), included in the results on the fast-track ballot (SC22 N2717), it looks as if CEN (in its TC304) tries to get an ISO Registry standard `through the backdoor' as SC22 closed the front-door. We consider this an improper use of the CEN and ISO rules. Our position remains: 1- first 14652 should be standardized; 2- then experience should be gained in using 14652; 3- then it should be considered whether a registry standard is necessary. W.F. Wakker, chairman June 1998 ______________ end of SC22 N2739 _________________________________ ! ! ! !