ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22
Programming languages, their environments and system software = interfaces
Secretariat: U.S.A. = (ANSI)

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 N3974

TITLE:
Canadian Contribution to the September 2005 SC22 Plenary on = POSIX

DATE ASSIGNED:
2005-08-31

SOURCE:
SC 22 Secretariat

BACKWARD POINTER:

DOCUMENT TYPE:
National Body Contribution

PROJECT NUMBER:
N/A

STATUS:
Because this document has been received after the due date for document = submissions, the addition of this document to the SC 22 Plenary agenda will have to be = approved at the SC 22 Plenary meeting. Should it be approved, it will be = covered under agenda item 7.4.2.

ACTION IDENTIFIER:
FYI

DUE DATE:
N/A

DISTRIBUTION:
text

CROSS REFERENCE:
N/A

DISTRIBUTION FORM:
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Address reply to:
ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Secretariat
Sally = Seitz
ANSI
25 West 43rd = Street

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Canadian Submission to SC22 Plenary 2005 = POSIX

The submission of POSIX-related documents has been problematic = within SC22 for a significant period of time. WG15 had not met as a WG in excess of = 5 years and yet new POSIX documents were being submitted as though there was a = properly functioning WG to manage these documents. To wit the POSIX 2003 = complete balloting process was handled by SC22 secretariat without a functioning technical POSIX group within SC22.

At the 2004 SC22 plenary, SC22 terminated WG15 and instituted = SWG to examine and report on POSIX issues. This group had a single meeting in January = 2005, and concluded that POSIX documents should be prepared and submitted by = the existing editors directly to SC22 for balloting. =

Canada notes that:

1.ISO/IEC/JTC1/SC22 has no formal relationship with the Austin = Group now that WG15 has ceased to exist. It is not even clear that the Austin = Group has a legitimate charter since 2 of the 3 founding entities no longer exist. =

2.ISO/IEC/JTC1 directives contain no mechanism for project = editors to submit new standards, corrigenda to standards or amendments to standards = without a current JTC1 project and national body = participation

3.SC22 has no mechanisms in place to perform technical work = such as

POSIX standards development outside of working groups =

Canada therefore requests that SC22 secretariat inform the Open Group that =

a. it is unable to accept future updates to POSIX standards as = SC22 work unless an effective POSIX WG is in = existence.

b. Failing the creation of an effective POSIX WG within SC22, = all future updates to POSIX must either follow the standard JTC1 fast track = process or JTC1 PAS process; and

c. the Open Group take necessary measures to initiate = fast track or PAS process within JTC1 so that POSIX standards are not unduly held = back by JTC1.

Canada further notes that item 9 of the POSIX SG meeting recommends that all = POSIX character maps and locales be assigned to the I18NRG. This is likely = not possible given the current state of i18n within SC22. Recognizing that = SC22 needs a place to manage this work, we suggest that this be moved to a developing Linux or Linux/POSIX WG.

Sally = Seitz

Program = Manager

ANSI

25 = West 43rd Street

New = York, NY 10036<= /p>

Phone: (212) 642-4918

Fax: (212) 840-2298

Email: sseitz@ansi.org

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