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ACTION IDENTIFIER: FYI DUE DATE: N/A DISTRIBUTION: Text CROSS REFERENCE: N/A DISTRIBUTION FORM: Open Address reply to: ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Secretariat Matt Deane ANSI 25 West 43rd Street New York, NY 10036 Telephone: (212) 642-4992 Fax: (212) 840-2298 Email: mdeane@ansi.org ___end of cover page, beginning of document_______ Meeting report ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22/WG4 - COBOL Meeting 23 10-13 September 2002 Location: NARA-KEN NEW PUBLIC HALL 101 Kasugano-cho, Nara City, Nara-ken 630-8212, Japan 1. Opening of the meeting. The convener, Mr. Don Schricker, opened the meeting at 10:00 am, Tuesday, 10 September 2002. 2. Opening business 2.1 Introduction of delegates. Each of the delegates introduced himself. The following is the list of delegates in attendance for all or part of the meeting, along with their affiliation if any: Germany: Mr. Othmar Augustin, GOI Japan: Dr. Tetsuji Imajo, Hitachi, Ltd. Mr. Kazuhiko Noba, Fujitsu Info Software Technologies Ltd. Mr. Wataru Takagi, Hitachi, Ltd. Mr. Kazuto Nagai, NEC System Technologies, Ltd. U.K.: Dr. Rod Grealish U.S.: Ms Ann Bennett, IBM Mr. Thane Hubbell, Fujitsu Software Corp. Mr. Barry Tauber, Victor Consulting Some expected delegates could not attend. Mr. Bernd Ewert, GOI, from Germany was unable to attend because of flooding in Germany. Mr. Ebbinkhuijsen from the Netherlands was unable to attend because of an injury. 2.2 Introductory remarks by convener. Mr. Schricker announced that he had been approved as convenor at the SC22 meeting in August 2002. 2.3 Welcome by host, local arrangements. The Japanese delegation welcomed the delegates and invited them to a dinner on Thursday night. 2.4 Appointment of secretary and chair. Mr. Schricker chaired most of the meeting. Mr. Tauber volunteered to chair portions of the meeting so that the convenor could participate in technical discussions. Mr. Schricker appointed himself as secretary for this meeting. 2.5 Selection of drafting committee. The following delegates volunteered to serve on the drafting committee: Mr. Rod Grealish - chairman Mr. Thane Hubbell Mr. Wataru Takagi The convenor appointed Mr. Grealish to be the chairman. 2.6 Recognition of documents. Documents for the meeting are shown in the final agenda, which is Attachment 1. Documents labeled NARA-n were temporary documents, of interest only for the duration of the meeting. 2.7 Approval of agenda. The agenda was adopted by consensus. (Attachment 1) 2.8 Approval of Minutes of Meeting 22, November 2001 (WG4 N 0159). The minutes of WG4 meeting 22 were approved by consensus. 3. JTC1 or SC22 information affecting the group 3.1 NARA-6 - Resolutions from the SC22 meeting (SC22 N 3489). The convenor highlighted the SC22 resolutions that might influence the work of WG4. 3.2 SC22 character handling ad hoc. Mr. Schricker attended this ad hoc and presented SC22 N 3465, SC 22/WG 4 Convenor Contribution to the Coded Character Sets Workshop, which had been prepared by Ms. Bennett. Mr. Schricker summarized the proceedings of the ad hoc. He reported that after each attendee had explained the character handling support in their language, it was clear to him that COBOL character handling support is as good as or better than that of other SC22 programming language standards. 4. Liaison reports 4.1 WG 20, Internationalization. Mr. Schricker will liaise with WG20. 4.2 Open Group. It is unclear whether this liaison is in effect. We are waiting to hear back from Mr. Michel Dessier of Bull France on whether the Open Group has any interest in continuing this relationship. 4.3 WG 11, Binding Techniques. WG4's liaison with WG11, Mr. Don Nelson, has retired and can no longer serve as liaison with WG11. Mr. Grealish volunteered for this position. Mr. Schricker will notify the WG11 convenor. Mr. Schricker will make SC22 N 3432, the WG11 convenor's report, available to WG4. 4.4 INCITS/J4. Mr. Schricker reported the following highlights of J4's activities: * ISO/IEC 1989 FDIS. J4 completed work on the final draft standard as requested by WG4. * Finalizer TR. J4 prepared a draft technical report as requested by WG4. A PDTR ballot closed just before this meeting. * Defect processing. J4 has evolved defect handling processes and a few defects have been discussed. * Class libraries. J4 investigated potential class library topics, and focused on the four areas for which WG4 requested investigation: XML, database, persistence, and collections. * Future revision: J4 has started preliminary discussions of the timing of a next revision and is reviewing the list of candidate items that were deferred for future consideration. 4.5 Other. Dr. Imajo presented material that Professor Shunsuke Uemura had prepared on early COBOL development by the CODASYL COBOL Committee, with pictures of some of the founding members. 5. Preliminary discussion of future meetings. Mr. Ebbinkhuijsen has extended a tentative offer to host the next WG4 meeting in The Netherlands. See later discussion for other alternatives. 6. Status of ISO/IEC 1989. We learned during the week that the ballot had closed on September 11 and the COBOL standard had been approved without opposition. 7. Defect Handling for ISO/IEC 1989 7.1 NARA-2 - J4 Defect Handling Process. WG4 reviewed J4's defect handling process. Ms Bennett volunteered to serve as the project editor for the Records of Response and Technical Corrigenda Mr. Schricker listed the 11 topics that have been submitted to J4 for interpretation. 7.2 J4 Defect Handling web site. Mr. Hubbell has set up a J4 web site to track defects. Initially, it has the defect tracking documents that J4 has discussed. He will add defects as J4 work progresses. He will maintain a similar site for defect reports that are submitted to WG4. 8. Finalizer Technical Report, WG4 N0163 8.1 NARA-1 - Summary of Voting on Finalizer TR. WG4 developed responses to the comments on the ballot. These are detailed in the Record of Response, which is WG4 N 0167. One straw vote was taken during discussion of the ballot comments: Regarding garbage collection during InvokeFinalizers method execution 1. Make no requirement for garbage collection in the InvokeFinalizers method - 1 2. Require garbage collection before return from the InvokeFinalizers method - 2 3. Add a parameter to the InvokeFinalizers method indicating whether garbage collection is required. - 3, 4. abstain - 1 8.1.1 Acknowledgment. There was consensus to remove the Acknowledgment from the Finalizer TR. 8.2 Schedule. WG4 requested that the Finalizer TR be sent forward for next ballot by April 1, 2003. There was consensus that the determination made by the convenor on whether to forward the TR as a PDTR or a DTR will be based on the magnitude of changes that result from the implementation by J4 of the direction given by WG4 in the Record of Response to these comments and any possible late PDTR comments. 9. Class Library Technical Report 9.1 Scope of work 9.1.1 XML - WG4 N 0165 (J4/02-0147) - XML Classes. Mr. Schricker presented WG4 N 0165 summarizing J4's investigation of XML classes. There was WG4 consensus to request that J4 develop the proposed facilities and also investigate some high level facilities for importing and exporting COBOL data structures to and from XML. 9.1.2 Collections - NARA-4 (J4/02-0133) - Collection Class Library. Mr. Hubbell presented the J4 recommendation that collection classes be developed. See resolution 3 for WG4's direction. 9.1.3 Database - NARA-3 (J4/02-0134) - Proposed Database Classes. Mr. Tauber presented a summary of the J4 investigation of database classes. There was WG4 consensus not to pursue database classes at this time. 9.1.4 Persistence - NARA-5 (J4/02-0142) - Object Persistence with COBOL. Ms Bennett presented a summary of the J4 investigation of persistence. There was WG4 consensus not to pursue a class for persistence at this time. 9.1.5 Other Candidates. Class library support for strings and blobs was added to the candidates list for a future revision. No other candidates for a class library were proposed. 9.2 Schedule. WG4 requested that J4 propose a schedule for development of these class libraries at the next WG4 meeting. That schedule should include a date for work item initiation. 10. Future plans 10.1 Future revision or amendment of ISO/IEC 1989. WG4 discussed methods of soliciting input for the next COBOL standard. Vendor extensions were suggested as one source of input. Another suggestion was to hold a workshop to solicit input on a vision for the future of the COBOL language. COBOL Expo was suggested as a possible venue for this workshop. We could call for papers on a vision for the future of the COBOL language. The last day of COBOL Expo would be a good day for the workshop. Mr. Schricker will contact Mr. Ed Arranga to try to arrange for a workshop in conjunction with COBOL Expo in June 2003. WG4 wants to have a workshop, even if it is not possible to have it in conjunction with COBOL Expo. 10.1.1 WG4 N 0166 - Candidate features for a future revision. Mr. Schricker asked what the target date for the next standard should be. Responses were: * Germany - in about 6 years. * Japan - 2010 should be the goal. WG4 should evaluate J4's recommendations for features. The convenor will develop a schedule for development of the next standard in 5 years that will be reviewed at the next WG4 meeting. 10.2 Future meetings. In addition to the tentative offer from the Netherlands, the U.S. extended a tentative offer to host the next WG4 meeting. The date would be dependent on the scheduling of COBOL Expo. 11. Review and approval of resolutions from this meeting. The following resolutions were approved unanimously: 1. ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22/WG4 approves ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22/WG4 N 0167 as the interim record of response to comments for ISO/IEC PDTR 19755 - Object Finalization for Programming Language COBOL (Type 2 TR). 2. ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22/WG4 requests that INCITS/J4 proceed with the development of an XML Class Library in accordance with WG4 N 0165 and investigate further capabilities to more directly relate XML and COBOL. 3. ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22/WG4 requests that INCITS/J4 proceed with the development of a Collection Class Library providing unordered, ordered, and keyed access to collections of object references. 4. ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22/WG4 requests that INCITS/J4 explore methods of soliciting a broader range of views for the development of the COBOL programming language. 5. ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22/WG4 expresses its appreciation to all those who have assisted in the work of this meeting, and in particular to: * Dr. Tetsuji Imajo and Mr. Wataru Takagi of ITSCJ for their preparation and administration of the meeting, as well as the very entertaining and enjoyable social events; * Professor Shunsuke Uemura of NAIST for the presentation "CODASYL committees in 1970"; * Dr.Tetsuji Imajo, Mr. Kazuhiko Noba, Mr. Wataru Takagi and the other authors of "COBOL 2002", for publication of the first book on the new COBOL standard and to Dr. Imajo for presenting the WG4 meeting participants with gift copies of the book; * Mr. Barry Tauber for arranging the gift of M&M candies in celebration of the Standard; * Ms. Keiko Nakamura, Mr. Shigekazu Kuribayashi and the volunteers of the Nara Convention Bureau for their excellent organization, hospitality, and support of the meeting. 6. ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22/WG4 expresses its deep appreciation to Ms. Ann Bennett for her many years of service and leadership as SC 22 WG4 Convenor. 7. ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22/WG4 expresses its deep appreciation to Mr. Don Nelson for his many years of service as project editor for ISO/IEC 1989, COBOL. The resolutions are also presented in WG4 N 0168 for open distribution. 12. Adjournment. The meeting adjourned at 12:30 p.m. on 13 September 2002. Attachment 1 Final Agenda ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22/WG4 - COBOL Meeting 23 10-13 September 2002 Location: Conference Room 3 NARA-KEN NEW PUBLIC HALL 101 Kasugano-cho, Nara City, Nara-ken 630-8212, Japan 1. Opening of the meeting: 10:00 am, Tuesday, 10 September 2002 2. Opening business 2.1 Introduction of delegates 2.2 Introductory remarks by convener 2.3 Welcome by host, local arrangements 2.4 Appointment of secretary and chair 2.5 Selection of drafting committee 2.6 Recognition of documents 2.7 Approval of agenda 2.8 Approval of Minutes of Meeting 22, November 2001 (WG4 N 0159) 3. JTC1 or SC22 information affecting the group 3.1 NARA-6 - Resolutions from the SC22 meeting (SC22 N 3489) 3.2 SC22 character handling ad hoc 4. Liaison reports 5. Preliminary discussion of future meetings 6. Status of ISO/IEC 1989 (Project 7. Defect Handling for ISO/IEC 1989 7.1 NARA-2 - J4 Defect Handling Process 7.2 J4 Defect Handling web site (Hubbell) 8. Finalizer Technical Report, WG4 N0163 - Finalizer TR 8.1 Status: NARA-1 - Summary of Voting on Finalizer TR 8.1.1 Acknowledgment 8.2 Schedule 9. Class Library Technical Report 9.1 Scope of work 9.1.1 XML - WG4 N 0165 (J4/02-0147) - XML Classes 9.1.2 Collections - NARA-4 (J4/02-0133) - Collection Class Library 9.1.3 Database - NARA-3 (J4/02-0134) - Proposed Database Classes 9.1.4 Persistence - NARA-5 (J4/02-0142) - Object Persistence with COBOL 9.1.5 Other Candidates 9.2 Schedule 10. Future plans 10.1 Revision or amendment of ISO/IEC 1989 10.1.1 WG4 N 0166 - Candidate features for a future revision 10.2 Future meetings 11. Review and approval of resolutions from this meeting 12. Close of the meeting: end of day 13 September 2002 Daily schedule: Meeting start: 9:00 am Breaks and lunch time to be determined Meeting stop: 6:00 pm ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2D833.3CF16560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SC 22 N 3543 - Minutes from the SC 22/WG 4 Meeting, 10-13 = September 2002, Nara, Japan

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22
Programming languages, their = environments and system software interfaces
Secretariat: U.S.A. = (ANSI)

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 N3543

TITLE:
Minutes from the SC 22/WG 4 = Meeting, 10-13 September 2002, Nara, Japan

DATE ASSIGNED:
2003-02-19

SOURCE:
SC 22/WG 4 Convenor (D. = Schricker)

BACKWARD POINTER:

DOCUMENT TYPE:
Meeting Report (Open)

PROJECT NUMBER:
N/A

STATUS:
For information.

ACTION IDENTIFIER:
FYI

DUE DATE:
N/A

DISTRIBUTION:
Text

CROSS REFERENCE:
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DISTRIBUTION FORM:
Open

Address reply to:
ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 = Secretariat
Matt Deane
ANSI
25 West 43rd Street
New York, NY 10036
Telephone: (212) = 642-4992
Fax: &nb= sp; (212) 840-2298
Email: = mdeane@ansi.org

___end of cover page, beginning = of document_______

Meeting report

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22/WG4 - = COBOL
Meeting 23
10-13 September = 2002

Location:

NARA-KEN NEW PUBLIC = HALL
101 Kasugano-cho, = Nara City,
Nara-ken = 630-8212, Japan

1. Opening of the = meeting. The convener, Mr. Don Schricker, opened the = meeting at 10:00 am, Tuesday, 10 September 2002.

2. &= nbsp; Opening business
2.1 Introduction of = delegates. Each of the delegates introduced himself. = The following is the list of delegates in attendance for all or part of = the meeting, along with their affiliation if any:

Germany:
        Mr. Othmar Augustin, GOI
Japan:
        Dr. Tetsuji Imajo, Hitachi, Ltd.
        Mr. Kazuhiko Noba, Fujitsu Info Software = Technologies Ltd.
        Mr. Wataru Takagi, Hitachi, Ltd.
        Mr. Kazuto Nagai, NEC System Technologies, Ltd.
U.K.:
        Dr. Rod Grealish
U.S.:
        Ms Ann Bennett, IBM
        Mr. Thane Hubbell, Fujitsu Software = Corp.
        Mr. Barry Tauber, Victor Consulting

Some expected = delegates could not attend. Mr. Bernd Ewert, GOI, from Germany = was unable to attend because of flooding in Germany. Mr. = Ebbinkhuijsen from the Netherlands was unable to attend because of an = injury.

2.2 Introductory remarks by = convener. Mr. Schricker announced that he had been approved = as convenor at the SC22 meeting in August 2002.

2.3 Welcome by host, local = arrangements. The Japanese delegation welcomed the delegates and = invited them to a dinner on Thursday night.

2.4 Appointment of secretary and = chair. Mr. Schricker chaired most of the meeting. Mr. = Tauber volunteered to chair portions of the meeting so that the = convenor could participate in technical discussions.

Mr. Schricker = appointed himself as secretary for this meeting.

2.5     Selection of drafting = committee. The following delegates volunteered to serve on the = drafting committee:
        Mr. Rod Grealish - chairman
        Mr. Thane Hubbell
        Mr. Wataru Takagi

The convenor = appointed Mr. Grealish to be the chairman.

2.6 Recognition of = documents. Documents for the meeting are shown in the final agenda, = which is Attachment 1. Documents labeled NARA-n were = temporary documents, of interest only for the duration of the = meeting.

2.7 Approval of = agenda. The agenda was adopted by consensus. (Attachment = 1)

2.8 Approval of Minutes of = Meeting 22, November 2001 (WG4 N 0159). The minutes of WG4 meeting 22 = were approved by consensus.

3. JTC1 or SC22 = information affecting the group
3.1 NARA-6 - Resolutions from = the SC22 meeting (SC22 N 3489). The convenor highlighted the SC22 resolutions that might = influence the work of WG4.

3.2 SC22 character handling ad = hoc. Mr. Schricker attended this ad hoc and presented SC22 N = 3465, SC 22/WG 4 Convenor Contribution to the Coded Character Sets = Workshop, which had been prepared by Ms. Bennett. Mr. Schricker = summarized the proceedings of the ad hoc. He reported that after = each attendee had explained the character handling support in their = language, it was clear to him that = COBOL character handling support is as good as or better than that of = other SC22 programming language standards.

4. Liaison = reports
4.1 WG 20, = Internationalization. Mr. Schricker will liaise with WG20.

4.2 Open Group. = It is unclear whether = this liaison is in effect. We are waiting to hear back from Mr. = Michel Dessier of Bull France on whether the Open Group has any = interest in continuing this relationship.

4.3 WG 11, Binding = Techniques. WG4's liaison with WG11, Mr. Don Nelson, has retired and = can no longer serve as liaison with WG11. Mr. Grealish = volunteered for this position. Mr. Schricker will notify the WG11 = convenor. Mr. Schricker will make SC22 N 3432, the WG11 = convenor's report, available to WG4.

4.4 INCITS/J4. = Mr. Schricker reported = the following highlights of J4's activities:

· = ISO/IEC 1989 = FDIS. J4 completed work on the final draft standard as requested = by WG4.
· = Finalizer TR. J4 = prepared a draft technical report as requested by WG4. A PDTR = ballot closed just before this meeting.

· = Defect = processing. J4 has evolved defect handling processes and a few = defects have been discussed.
· = Class libraries. = J4 investigated potential class library topics, and focused on the four = areas for which WG4 requested investigation: XML, database, = persistence, and collections.

· = Future revision: = J4 has started preliminary discussions of the timing of a next revision = and is reviewing the list of candidate items that were deferred for = future consideration.

4.5 Other. Dr. Imajo presented = material that Professor Shunsuke Uemura had prepared on early COBOL development by the = CODASYL COBOL Committee, with pictures of some of the founding = members.

5. Preliminary discussion = of future meetings. Mr. Ebbinkhuijsen has extended a tentative offer to host = the next WG4 meeting in The Netherlands. See later discussion for = other alternatives.

6. Status of ISO/IEC = 1989. We learned during the week that the ballot had closed on = September 11 and the COBOL standard had been approved without = opposition.

7. Defect Handling for = ISO/IEC 1989
7.1 NARA-2 - J4 Defect Handling = Process. WG4 reviewed J4's defect handling process. Ms = Bennett volunteered to serve as the project editor for the Records of = Response and Technical Corrigenda

Mr. Schricker listed = the 11 topics that have been submitted to J4 for interpretation.

7.2 J4 Defect Handling web = site. = Mr. Hubbell has set up a J4 web site to track defects. Initially, = it has the defect tracking documents that J4 has discussed. He = will add defects as J4 work progresses. He will maintain a = similar site for defect reports that are submitted to WG4.

8. Finalizer Technical = Report, WG4 N0163
8.1 NARA-1 - Summary of Voting = on Finalizer TR. WG4 developed responses to the comments on the = ballot. These are detailed in the Record of Response, which is = WG4 N 0167.

One straw vote was = taken during discussion of the ballot comments:
Regarding garbage = collection during InvokeFinalizers method execution
1. Make no = requirement for garbage collection in the InvokeFinalizers method - 1 =
2. Require = garbage collection before return from the InvokeFinalizers method - = 2
3. Add a parameter to the = InvokeFinalizers method indicating whether garbage collection is = required. - 3,
4. abstain - 1

8.1.1 = Acknowledgment. There was consensus to remove the Acknowledgment from = the Finalizer TR.

8.2 Schedule. = WG4 requested that the = Finalizer TR be sent forward for next ballot by April 1, 2003. = There was consensus that the determination made by the convenor on = whether to forward the TR as a PDTR or a DTR will be based on the = magnitude of changes that result from the implementation by J4 of the = direction given by WG4 in the Record of Response to these comments and = any possible late PDTR comments.

9.      Class Library Technical = Report
9.1     Scope of work
9.1.1   XML - = WG4 N 0165 (J4/02-0147) - XML Classes. Mr. Schricker presented WG4 N = 0165 summarizing J4's investigation of XML classes. There was WG4 = consensus to request that J4 develop the proposed facilities and = also investigate some high level facilities for importing and exporting = COBOL data structures to and from XML.

9.1.2 = Collections - NARA-4 (J4/02-0133) - Collection Class = Library. Mr. Hubbell presented the J4 recommendation that = collection classes be developed. See resolution 3 for WG4's = direction.

9.1.3 Database = - NARA-3 (J4/02-0134) - Proposed Database Classes. = Mr. Tauber presented a = summary of the J4 investigation of database classes. There was = WG4 consensus not to pursue database classes at this time.

9.1.4 = Persistence - NARA-5 (J4/02-0142) - Object Persistence with = COBOL. Ms Bennett presented a summary of the J4 investigation = of persistence. There was WG4 consensus not to pursue a class for = persistence at this time.

9.1.5 Other = Candidates. Class library support for strings and blobs was added to = the candidates list for a future revision. No other candidates = for a class library were proposed.

9.2 Schedule. = WG4 requested that J4 = propose a schedule for development of these class libraries at the next = WG4 meeting. That schedule should include a date for work item = initiation.

10. Future plans
10.1 = Future revision or amendment of ISO/IEC 1989. WG4 discussed methods of = soliciting input for the next COBOL standard.

Vendor extensions = were suggested as one source of input.

Another suggestion = was to hold a workshop to solicit input on a vision for the future of = the COBOL language. COBOL Expo was suggested as a possible venue = for this workshop. We could call for papers on a vision for the = future of the COBOL language. The last day of COBOL Expo would be = a good day for the workshop. Mr. Schricker will contact Mr. Ed = Arranga to try to arrange for a workshop in conjunction with COBOL Expo = in June 2003.

WG4 wants to have a = workshop, even if it is not possible to have it in conjunction with = COBOL Expo.

10.1.1 WG4 N 0166 - = Candidate features for a future revision. Mr. Schricker asked what the = target date for the next standard should be. Responses = were:

· = Germany - in about 6 = years.

· = Japan - 2010 should be = the goal. WG4 should evaluate J4's recommendations for = features.

The convenor will = develop a schedule for development of the next standard in 5 years that = will be reviewed at the next WG4 meeting.

10.2 = Future meetings. In addition to the tentative offer from the Netherlands, = the U.S. extended a tentative offer to host the next WG4 meeting. = The date would be dependent on the scheduling of COBOL Expo.

11. Review and approval of = resolutions from this meeting. The following resolutions were approved = unanimously:

1. ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC = 22/WG4 approves ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22/WG4 N 0167 as the interim record of = response to comments for ISO/IEC PDTR 19755 - Object Finalization for = Programming Language COBOL (Type 2 TR).

2. ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC = 22/WG4 requests that INCITS/J4 proceed with the development of an XML = Class Library in accordance with WG4 N 0165 and investigate = further capabilities to more directly relate XML and COBOL.

3. ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC = 22/WG4 requests that INCITS/J4 proceed with the development of a = Collection Class Library providing unordered, ordered, and keyed access to = collections of object references.

4. ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC = 22/WG4 requests that INCITS/J4 explore methods of soliciting a broader = range of views for the development of the COBOL programming = language.

5. ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC = 22/WG4 expresses its appreciation to all those who have assisted in the = work of this meeting, and in particular to:

· = Dr. Tetsuji = Imajo and Mr. Wataru Takagi of ITSCJ for their preparation and = administration of the meeting, as well as the very entertaining and = enjoyable social events;

· = Professor Shunsuke = Uemura of NAIST for the presentation "CODASYL committees in = 1970";
· = Dr.Tetsuji Imajo, Mr. = Kazuhiko Noba, Mr. Wataru Takagi and the other authors of "COBOL 2002", = for publication of the first book on the new COBOL standard and to Dr. = Imajo for presenting the WG4 meeting participants with gift copies of = the book;

· = Mr. Barry Tauber for = arranging the gift of M&M candies in celebration of the = Standard;
· = Ms. Keiko Nakamura, = Mr. Shigekazu Kuribayashi and the volunteers of the Nara Convention = Bureau for their excellent organization, hospitality, and support of = the meeting.

6. ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC = 22/WG4 expresses its deep appreciation to Ms. Ann Bennett for her many = years of service and leadership as SC 22 WG4 Convenor.

7. ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC = 22/WG4 expresses its deep appreciation to Mr. Don Nelson for his many = years of service as project editor for ISO/IEC 1989, COBOL.

The resolutions are = also presented in WG4 N 0168 for open distribution.

12. = Adjournment. The meeting adjourned at 12:30 p.m. on 13 September = 2002.

Attachment 1

Final Agenda

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22/WG4 - = COBOL
Meeting 23
10-13 September = 2002

Location:

Conference Room = 3
NARA-KEN NEW = PUBLIC HALL
101 = Kasugano-cho, Nara City,
Nara-ken = 630-8212, Japan

1. Opening of the = meeting: 10:00 am, Tuesday, 10 September = 2002

2.      Opening = business
2.1     =         Introduction of = delegates
2.2     =         Introductory remarks by = convener
2.3     =         Welcome by host, local = arrangements
2.4     =         Appointment of secretary and = chair
2.5     =         Selection of drafting = committee
2.6     =         Recognition of = documents
2.7     =         Approval of = agenda
2.8     =         Approval of Minutes of = Meeting 22, November 2001 (WG4 N 0159)

3.      JTC1 or SC22 = information affecting the group
3.1     NARA-6 - Resolutions from = the SC22 meeting (SC22 N 3489)
3.2     SC22 character handling ad = hoc

4. Liaison = reports

5. Preliminary discussion = of future meetings

6. Status of ISO/IEC 1989 = (Project

7.      Defect Handling for = ISO/IEC 1989
7.1     NARA-2 - J4 Defect Handling = Process
7.2     J4 Defect Handling web site = (Hubbell)

8.      Finalizer Technical = Report, WG4 N0163 - Finalizer TR
8.1     =         Status: NARA-1 - = Summary of Voting on Finalizer TR
8.1.1   =         Acknowledgment
8.2     =         Schedule

9.      Class Library Technical = Report
9.1     =         Scope of work
9.1.1   =         XML - WG4 N 0165 = (J4/02-0147) - XML Classes
9.1.2   =         Collections - NARA-4 = (J4/02-0133) - Collection Class Library
9.1.3   =         Database - NARA-3 = (J4/02-0134) - Proposed Database Classes
9.1.4   =         Persistence - NARA-5 = (J4/02-0142) - Object Persistence with COBOL
9.1.5   =         Other Candidates
9.2     =         Schedule

10.     Future plans
10.1    =         Revision or amendment of = ISO/IEC 1989
10.1.1 =         WG4 N 0166 - Candidate = features for a future revision
10.2    =         Future meetings

11. Review and approval of = resolutions from this meeting

12. Close of the = meeting: end of day 13 September 2002

Daily = schedule:
        =         Meeting start: =         9:00 am
        =         Breaks and lunch time to be = determined
        =         Meeting stop:   =         6:00 pm

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