From rinehuls@access.digex.net Tue Dec 24 00:27:40 1996 Received: from ratatosk.DK.net (root@ratatosk.DK.net [193.88.44.22]) by dkuug.dk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA27601 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:27:38 +0100 Received: from access5.digex.net (qlrhmEbBUV1EY@access5.digex.net [205.197.245.196]) by ratatosk.DK.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA22973 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 1996 00:27:35 +0100 Received: from localhost (rinehuls@localhost) by access5.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA05081 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 1996 18:26:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 18:26:14 -0500 (EST) From: "william c. rinehuls" To: sc22docs@dkuug.dk Subject: SC22 N2368 - Request for GII Input Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII _____________________beginning of title page _______________________ ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Programming languages, their environments and system software interfaces Secretariat: U.S.A. (ANSI) ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 N2368 January 1997 TITLE: SC22 Chairman's Report on SWG-GII Meeting on December 6, 1996 in Paris, France SOURCE: Secretariat, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 WORK ITEM: N/A STATUS: Please note the request to the Working Group Conveners to provide information to the SC22 Chairman by January 8, 1997. CROSS REFERENCE: N/A DOCUMENT TYPE: N/A ACTION: To SC22 Member Bodies for information. TO WG CONVENERS FOR RESPONSE TO THE SC22 CHAIRMAN BY JANUARY 8, 1997. Address reply to: ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Secretariat William C. Rinehuls 8457 Rushing Creek Court Springfield, VA 22153 USA Tel: +1 (703) 912-9680 Fax: +1 (703) 912-2973 email: rinehuls@access.digex.net ________________________end of title page; beginning of text _________ ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Programming languages, their environments and system software interfaces Secretariat: U.S.A. (ANSI) 23 December 1996 To: SC22 National Bodies and Working Group Conveners Subject: SWG-GII Meeting, 6 December 1996 I participated on your behalf at the last day of the SWG-GII meeting in Paris on 6 December 1996. SWG-GII had designated this day for meeting with SC Chairmen and discussing SC input. SWG-GII drew a distinction between "services" and "tools" as far as the tables in N64r2 are concerned. The tables do not include standards for building tools (but these standards will be covered in the new section on pervasive standards mentioned below). SWG-GII does want to include standards which provide specific services whenever they exist. They appeared particularly interested in internationalization. SWG-GII will revise their document N64r2 (SC22 N2322), Identifying JTC1 Standards Used to Develop a GII Standards Roadmap, taking into account the SC22 comments: -- The SC22 standards that were identified in the charts I submitted (SC22 N2346) will be added to the document as we indicated; -- A section will be added on pervasive standards for GII, with a list of such standards that will include those from SC22; -- SWG-GII agreed that portability is not adequately handled at present and treatment of portability will be expanded. There are a number of fundamental concepts that must be inherent in the GII that the SWG calls attributes. Among them are interoperability and portability. This is covered in their GII Roadmap document (JTC1 N4332) which is a parallel document to N64r2 but which was only circulated to JTC1 on 15 November 1996. Because of this, SWG-GII does not believe that interoperability is only "for testing service interoperability" as we observed in our SC22 comments but rather that the Fundamental Building Blocks only cover this aspect of the interoperability attribute. SWG-GII did not agree to add the SC-specific service for server applications that we suggested but considered that this is already covered under data management services. SWG-GII plans to complete changes to their document N64r2 by 12 January 1997 and issue it again for comment in late January. Meanwhile, we still have an opportunity to provide additional standards for inclusion in the charts where we have standards that provide these services. ACTION ITEM: Working Group Conveners: In view of the guidance provided above, please let me know by 8 January 1997 any additional standards that should be included in the GII charts (see SC22 N2322 and SC22 N2346), where the standards have specific capabilities for providing the services indicated in the charts. I will forward a consolidated list to SWG-GII for inclusion is their January revision. Thank you. Robert H. Follett Chairman _____________________end of document SC22 N2368 ______________________