From rinehuls@access.digex.net Tue Dec 10 00:25:13 1996 Received: from access4.digex.net (qlrhmEbBUV1EY@access4.digex.net [205.197.245.195]) by dkuug.dk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA16325 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 1996 00:24:40 +0100 Received: from localhost (rinehuls@localhost) by access4.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA22328 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 18:24:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 18:24:35 -0500 (EST) From: "william c. rinehuls" X-Sender: rinehuls@access4.digex.net To: sc22docs@dkuug.dk Subject: SC22 N2352 (Vote Summary on CD Registration of CD 13210) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ________________beginning of title page ____________________________ ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Programming languages, their environments and system software interfaces Secretariat: U.S.A. (ANSI) ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 N2352 December 1996 TITLE: Summary of Voting on CD Registration for CD 13210 (Revision of ISO 13210): Information technology - Requirements and Guidelines for Test Methods Specifications and Test Method Implementations for Measuring Conformance to POSIX Standards SOURCE: Secretariat, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 WORK ITEM: JTC 1.22.37 STATUS: Registration of CD 13210 is approved. CROSS REFERENCE: SC22 N2215 DOCUMENT TYPE: Summary of Voting ACTION: To SC22 Member Bodies for information. To WG15 for preparation of a Disposition of Comments Report and a recommendation on the further processing of the CD. Address reply to: ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Secretariat William C. Rinehuls 8457 Rushing Creek Court Springfield, VA 22153 USA Tel: +1 (703) 912-9680 Fax: +1 (703) 912-2973 email: rinehuls@access.digex.net ______________________end of title page; beginning of summary ____________ SUMMARY OF VOTING ON Letter Ballot Reference No: SC22 N2215 Circulated by: JTC 1/SC22 Circulation Date: 08-13-1996 Closing Date: 12-02-1996 SUBJECT: CD Registration for CD 13210 (Revision of ISO 13210): Information technology - Requirements and Guidelines for Test Methods Specifications and Test Method Implementations for Measuring Conformance to POSIX Standards The following respsonses have been received on the subject of approval: "P" Members supporting approval without comment 13 "P" Members supporting approval with comment 1 "P" Members not supporting approval 1 "P" Members abstaining 2 "P" Members not voting 5 "O" Members supporting approval without comment 1 Secretariat Action: CD Registration is approved. The comment accompanying the abstention vote from Austria was: "Lack of expert resources". The comment accompaning the affirmative vote from the United Kingdom was: "The UK notes that the latest available draft should be the one presented for CD ballot." The comment accompanying the negative vote from the Netherlands is attached. WG15 is requested to prepare a Disposition of Comments Report and make a recommendation on the further processing of the CD. ____________________end of summary; beginning of detail summary ______ ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22 LETTER BALLOT SUMMARY PROJECT NO: JTC1.22.37 SUBJECT: CD Registration for: CD 13210 (Revision of ISO 13210): Information technology - Requirements and Guidelines for Test Methods Specifications and Test Method Implementations for Measuring Conformance to POSIX Standards Reference Document No: N2215 Ballot Document No: N2215 Circulation Date: 08-13-1996 Closing Date: 12-02-1996 Circulated To: SC22 P, L Circulated By: Secretariat SUMMARY OF VOTING AND COMMENTS RECEIVED Approve Disapprove Abstain Comments Not Voting 'P' Members Australia (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Austria ( ) ( ) (X) (X) ( ) Belgium ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) (X) Brazil (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Canada ( ) ( ) (X) ( ) ( ) China ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) (X) Czech Republic (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Denmark (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Egypt (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Finland (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) France (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Germany (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Japan (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Netherlands ( ) (X) ( ) (X) ( ) Romania (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Russian Federation ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) (X) Slovenia (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Sweden ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) (X) Switzerland (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) UK (X) ( ) ( ) (X) ( ) Ukraine (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) USA ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) (X) 'O' Members Argentina ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Bulgaria ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Cuba ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Greece ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Hungary ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Iceland ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) India ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Indonesia ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Italy ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Korea Republic (X) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) New Zealand ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Norway ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Poland ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Portugal ( ) ( ) (X) ( ) ( ) Singapore ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Thailand ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Turkey ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) Yugoslavia ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) __________________end of summary; beginning of comment __________________ From John.Bijlsma@nni.nl Mon Nov 25 12:2:58 196 IT - Requirements and Guidelines for Test Methods Specifications and Test Method Implementations for Measuring Conformence to POSIX Standards 96-12-02, DISAPPROVAL WITH COMMENT ...................................................... Comment on N2162 and N2215 by the NNi As any organization, ISO has to justify the cost of creating a product with the expected benefit. The NNi recently received a voluminous bundle of paper, N2162, containing the Working Document for the Standard for Test Methods Specifications for Measuring Conformance to POSIX.1b. The Working Document describes the intended audience for this standard as: (1) Developers of POSIX.1b test methods (2) Implementors of POSIX.1b implementations (3) Application writers for POSIX.1b conforming implementations (4) POSIX.1b testing laboratories; and (5) Others interested in validating the conformance of a vendor- claimed POSIX.1b implementation. It is the opinion of the NNi that this Working Document does not have a large enough audience to justify the progress to International Standard. The audiences mentioned under 1,2,4 and 5 above are very small. The audience mentioned under 3 above, application writers, is potentially very large. In the opinion of the NNi only a very small part of that audience will ever be tempted to use a Standard created from this Working Document. Application writers will use the base standard, POSIX.1b, whenever they want to know the exact specifications or intent of the POSIX.1b. The Working Document is not supposed to contain extra specifications or clarify POSIX.1b. The Working Document lists a huge number of tests in a language especially created for that purpose. Few application writers will bother with learning the language and using the tests. The NNi acknowledges the worth of the document for the intended audiences, but expects that the total audience will be too small to justify the cost of creating and maintaining a Standard similar to the Working Document. Document N2215 is a base document to be used with all POSIX test methods specifications. Because the base document only seems to be worthwhile in combination with standards containing test methods specifications, the NNi will not support N2215. __________________end of document SC22 N2352 _____________________