From mdeane@ANSI.org Fri Jun 1 19:17:47 2001 Received: from email1.ansi.org (email1.ansi.org [216.173.49.99]) by dkuug.dk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA62724 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 19:17:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mdeane@ANSI.org) Received: by email1.ansi.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:17:34 -0400 Message-ID: <2F81C8110D55D411882A0020356797B2194EAE@email1.ansi.org> From: Matthew Deane To: "'SC 22 Distribution List'" Subject: SC 22 N 3244 - Minutes from the SC 22/WG 11 Meeting, 27 April 200 1, Copenhagen Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:17:24 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Programming languages, their environments and system software interfaces Secretariat: U.S.A. (ANSI) ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 N 3244 TITLE: Minutes from the SC 22/WG 11 Meeting, 27 April 2001, Copenhagen DATE ASSIGNED: 2001-06-01 SOURCE: SC 22/WG 11 Convener (W. Wakker) BACKWARD POINTER: N/A DOCUMENT TYPE: Meeting Report PROJECT NUMBER: N/A STATUS: These minutes are circulated for information. ACTION IDENTIFIER: FYI DUE DATE: DISTRIBUTION: Text CROSS REFERENCE: DISTRIBUTION FORM: Def Address reply to: ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Secretariat Matt Deane ANSI 25 West 43rd Street New York, NY 10036 Telephone: (212) 642-4992 Fax: (212) 840-2298 Email: mdeane@ansi.org _______ end of title page; beginning of document _________________________ DRAFT MINUTES OF MEETING SC22/WG11 N473 Committee: ISO/IEC JTC1/SC22/WG11 Place: Danish Standards Copenhagen, Denmark Date: April 27, 2001 Attendees: Mr. Frank Farance USA Mr. Kent Karlsson IMI, Sweden Mr. Roger Scowen UK Mr. Keld Simonsen RAP, Norway Mr. Fred Tydeman USA Mr. Willem Wakker ACE Consulting bv, Netherlands (Convener) 1. Agenda It was agreed to follow the agenda, as outlined in WG11/N471. 2. Minutes of previous meeting (WG11/N466) The minutes were approved without changes. 3. Status of WG11 documents The TRs produced by WG11 (ISO/IEC 10182:1993 - Guidelines for the preparation of language bindings, and ISO/IEC 14369:1999 - Language Independent Service Specifications) are now publicly available, both from the ITTF website (http://isotc.iso.ch/livelink/livelink/fetch/2000/2489/Ittf_Home/ITTF.htm) and from the WG11 website (http://www.dkuug.dk/JTC1/SC22/WG11). ISO/IEC 11404:1996 - Language-independent Datatypes is finally also available from the same websites. The WG11 request to make ISO/IEC 13886:1996 - Language Independent Procedure Calling publicly available was approved by SC22; at JTC1 level the request was included in a larger scheme to make all JTC1 standards available at low cost, which proposal in the end failed. The request to make LIPC publicly available is currently again under ballot in JTC1. 4. Work Item 22.17 - Language-Independent Datatypes The document is published by ITTF as IS 11404:1996. At the last WG11 meeting it was decided to revise LID; Frank Farrance is the project editor for the revision. The project editor presented an updated charter for the revision, which was discussed and approved. The project editor will produce the final charter, including an envisaged planning, which will be send to SC22 for information. The convener will, in his conveners report to SC22, encourage the SC22 Chair and the SC22 NBs to inform other possibly interested groups of the current revision, and to encourage these groups to contribute and/or participate in the revision. The liaison statement from ITU-T SG7 regarding the revision of ISO/IEC 11404 was discussed. In this liaison statement the ASN.1 Group announces the revision of ASN.1, and offers assistance in the revision of 11404. It was decided that the response to the liaison statement should contain the following elements: -- 11404 is about datatypes, while ASN.1 is about data and data representation, so the standards have their own set of users; -- there is however a strong relationship in the fact that a mapping between 11404 and ASN.1 might be very useful; -- there is a plan to produce an informative annex of 11404 that describes the relationship between the two standards; and -- the development schedule of the 11404 revision. As the convener will not be available until shortly before the liaison statement is due, the project editor will produce a first version of the liaison statement response. The project editor, Mr. Frank Farrance, is the acting liaison between SC32/WG2 and SC22/WG11. 5. FDIS 10967-2 - Language-Independent Arithmetic, part 2: Elementary Numerical Functions After some email exchanges with ITTF the document is now finally in FDIS ballot; the ballot ends on April 30, 2001. The results of the ballot are still unknown. 6. WD 10967-3 - Language-Independent Arithmetic, part 3: Complex Floating Point Arithmetic and Complex Elementary Numerical Functions In November 2000, a first working draft (WG11/N470) was published on the WG11 website. At the meeting a revised version N470R (distributed at the meeting) was discussed. As N470R contains the main elements of the final IS, and it is presented in a form which is essentially the form envisaged for the future IS, it was decided to prepare, based on N470R, a WD for registration ballot. It was agreed to remove from the document -- those functions that are not used by any of the major ISO programming languages; -- most of the language bindings, and -- (for the registration document) most of the rationale. A guiding rule for the document should be: if in doubt: cut it out! The editor will have the WD for registration ready by June 2001. 7. Planning and Future Meetings It was agreed to review the comments received on the registration ballot of 10967-3 by teleconference. A next meeting is foreseen for April 2002 in Amsterdam.