From lrajchel@ANSI.org Thu Dec 7 18:05:17 2000 Received: from email1.ansi.org (mail.ansi.org [165.254.114.6]) by dkuug.dk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA53283; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 18:05:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from lrajchel@ANSI.org) Received: by email1.ansi.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:04:31 -0500 Message-ID: <2F81C8110D55D411882A0020356797B2151994@email1.ansi.org> From: Lisa Rajchel To: "'sc22info@dkuug.dk'" Cc: "'Simonsen, Keld'" Subject: SC 22 N 3192, Summary of Voting on SC 22 N 3162 Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 12:04:30 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) _______ beginning of title page _________________________ ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Programming languages, their environments and system software interfaces Secretariat: U.S.A. (ANSI) ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 N 3192 TITLE: Summary of Voting on SC 22 N 3162, PDTR Registration Ballot for PDTR 14766, Guidelines for POSIX National Profiles and National Locales DATE ASSIGNED: 2000-12-07 SOURCE: Secretariat, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 BACKWARD POINTER: N/A DOCUMENT TYPE: Summary of Voting PROJECT NUMBER: 22.14766 STATUS: WG 15 is requested to prepare the document for PDTR letter ballot taking into account the National Body comments received. ACTION IDENTIFIER: FYI to SC 22; action to WG 15 DUE DATE: N/A DISTRIBUTION: Text CROSS REFERENCE: N/A DISTRIBUTION FORM: Def. Address reply to: ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC22 Secretariat Lisa Rajchel ANSI 11 West 42nd Street New York, NY 10036 Telephone: (212) 642-4932 Fax: (212) 840-2298 Email: lrajchel@ansi.org > _______ end of title page; beginning of summary ______________ SUMMARY OF VOTING ON Letter Ballot Reference No: SC22 N3162 Circulated by: JTC 1/SC22 Circulation Date: 2000-08-30 Closing Date: 2000-11-30 SUBJECT: Summary of Voting on SC 22 N 3162, PDTR Registration Ballot for PDTR 14766, Guidelines for POSIX National Profiles and National Locales ____________________________________________________________________________ ____________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The following responses have been received on the subject of approval: "P" Members supporting approval without comment 5 (Germany, Ireland, Rep. of Korea, Netherlands, Russian Federation) "P" Members supporting approval with comments 3 (Canada, Norway, USA) Canadian comment- 1) Pages 1 through 7 should be renumbered i through vii. Page 8 would then become page 1. 2) Replace sections 1 through 4 in their entirety with the attached (see attachment 1). Renumber subsequent sections as required. Norwegian comment- We will deliver a Norwegian profile and locale for the CD. We will give further comments for the development of the CD. USA comment- Before issuing this document for ballot in the next stage of the ISO/IEC approval process, changes should be made to the draft to address any issues raised in the IEEE and Open Group ballots on this draft as specified by the Austin Group ballot resolution committee, in addition to any issues raised in the ISO/IEC FCD ballot. "P" Members not supporting approval 0 "P" Members abstaining 2 (Denmark, Sweden) "P" Members not voting 12 (Austria, Belgium, Brazil, China, Czech Rep., Egypt, France, Japan, Romania, Slovenia, Ukraine, UK) Attachment 1 - Canadian Comments 1 Overview 1.1 Scope This Technical Report provides guidelines for ISO Member Bodies in the process of making POSIX National Profiles and National Locales for the ISO/IEC 9945 series of POSIX standards. POSIX National Profiles provide requirements for making POSIX suitable for the culture, by specifying options needed of the POSIX standards and national standards to be applied. Implementers can then comply with the POSIX National Profile to make their product suited for the market, and ISO member bodies can facilitate procurement by making POSIX National Profiles that are national standards. Users can obtain products that are suited for their needs and with consistent behaviour across applications and platforms. A POSIX National Profile may include National Locale specifications. National Locales specify options to POSIX standards in POSIX locale format, on data that varies culturally. Applications can be written in an internationally portable way by removing hard-coded culturally dependent data or functions, and using the POSIX National Locale data instead. Implementers can, using the National Locales, be relieved from specifying the often very complex internationalization data themselves and instead rely on a credible source such as the ISO Member bodies. Users can benefit from products that are suited for their cultural needs and obtain consistent behaviour across applications and platforms. ISO member bodies can facilitate this process and provide procurement specifications via national standards for National Locales. Note: Hereafter through this document, for simplicity of wording, the word National Profile is used as synonym of the word POSIX National Profile, unless otherwise stated. 2 General 2.1 Normative References The following normative documents contain provisions, which, through reference in this text, constitute provisions of this Technical Report. For dated references, subsequent amendments to, or revisions of, any of these publications do not apply. However, parties to agreements based on this Technical Report are encouraged to investigate the possibility of applying the most recent editions of the normative documents indicated below. For undated references, the latest edition of the normative document referred to applies. Members of ISO and IEC maintain registers of currently valid International Standards. ISO/IEC 9945-1:1996, Information technology - Portable Operating System Interface (POSIX) - Part 1: System Application Program Interface (API) [C Language]. ISO/IEC 9945-2:1993, Information technology - Portable Operating System Interface (POSIX) - Part 2: Shell and Utilities. ISO/IEC 646:1991, Information technology - ISO 7-bit coded character set for information interchange. ISO/IEC 2022:1994, Information technology - Character code structure and extension techniques. ISO 4217:1995, Codes for the representation of currencies and funds. ISO 8601:1988, Data elements and interchange formats - Information interchange -Representation of dates and times. ISO/IEC 10646-1:2000, Information technology - Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS) ISO/IEC FDIS 14651, Information technology - International string ordering - Method for comparing character strings and description of a default tailor-able ordering. ISO/IEC 8859, Information technology - 8-bit single-byte coded graphic character sets - Part 1, ..., 10, 13, 14, 15. ISO/IEC Directives: 1997, Procedures for the technical work of ISO/IEC JTC 1 on information technology. ISO/IEC Directives Part 2, Methodology for the development of International Standards. ISO/IEC Directives Part 3:1989, Drafting and presentation of International Standards. ISO/IEC 9899:1999, Information technology - Programming language - C. ISO/IEC TR 14262:1995, Information technology - Guide to the POSIX Open Systems Environment. IEEE P1003.18/D13 (September 1996), Information technology - POSIX Profile. IEEE 1003.23-1998 User ¼ Profiles ISO/IEC TR 10000-1:1998, Information technology - Framework and taxonomy of International Standardized Profiles - Part 1: Framework. ISO/IEC TR 10000-2:1998, Information technology - Framework and taxonomy of International Standardized Profiles - Part 2: Principles and Taxonomy for OSI Profiles. ISO/IEC TR 10000-3:1998, Information technology - Framework and taxonomy of International Standardized Profiles - Part 3: Principles and Taxonomy for Open System Environment Profiles. ISO/IEC DTR 14652, Information technology - Specification method for cultural conventions. ISO/IEC 15897:1999, Information technology - Procedures for registration of cultural elements. ISO/IEC TR 11017:1998, Information technology - Framework for Internationalization. 2.2 Conformance In accordance with the precedent of ISO/IEC 14252: 1995, it is not appropriate to claim conformance to this Technical Report because it contains no mandatory requirements. Thus, conformance testing to this Technical Report is not applicable. 2.2 Methods Test methods are not applicable to a Technical Report. For testing a National Profile with its National Locale, it is often a good idea to provide test data for some functionality, especially the collating specification. This could be done by providing an unsorted file and a correctly sorted file. It will probably be unmanageable to provide a test suite for all of the standards referenced by a National Profile. 3 Terminology 3.1 Conventions [Describe the specific editorial and typographical conventions used in the document, including the specific fonts used such as in section 7.] 3.2 Definitions 3.2.1 Terms Profile: A set of one or more base standards, International Standardized Profiles (ISPs) and, where applicable, the identification of chosen classes, conforming subsets, options and parameters of those base standards, or ISPs necessary to accomplish a particular function (10000-1). POSIX profile: A profile for an International Standard is a set of specifications of the parameters, the selections of the optional items and the recommendations of the implementation related matters. A POSIX Profile corresponds to the profile concept for the POSIX International Standard. POSIX National Profile: A POSIX National Profile is a POSIX profile that is strongly related to the cultural dependent aspects of POSIX. It also contains the definitions and recommendations for the usage of national or regional standards that support the handling of the national or area specific aspects, e.g. the use of the coded character sets. POSIX National Locale: A National Locale is a part of a National Profile, which gives profile options in the POSIX localedef format. Conformance to a POSIX National Profile: The concept of the degree of the preciseness of the coincidence between the specifications of a realized POSIX system and the POSIX National Profile. Since the POSIX National Profile is not necessarily included in the POSIX Profile, systems that conform to the POSIX National Profile may not pass the POSIX Conformance requirements. National Standards Profile: A National Standards Profile (NSP) is a profile of an international standard or set of international standards, possibly together with other specifications, that is adopted by an ISO member body as a national standard. Internationalization (I18N): A process of producing an application platform or application that is easily capable of being localized for (almost) any cultural environment. (Note that an internationalized information system does not have a dependency on any specific culture, unless it is localized to that selected culture.) (TR 11017) Localization (L10N): A process of adapting an internationalized application platform or application to a specific cultural environment. In localization, the same semantics are preserved, while the syntax may be changed. (TR 11017) Portability (source code): The ability that an application can perform with same results on different application platforms, without changing the program source code. Locale: The definition of the subset of the environment of a user that depends on language and culture conventions. (9945-2) Localedef: [Insert definition of localedef.] Charmap: A character set description file, for use with a locale. (9945-2) International Standardized Profile: An internationally agreed-to, harmonized document that describes one or more profiles (10000-1). 3.2.2 Acronyms and Abbreviations DTR: Draft Technical Report FDIS: Final Draft International Standard I18N: Internationalization ISP: International Standardized Profile JTC: Joint Technical Committee L10N: Localization NSP: National Standards Profile OSI: PAS: Publicly Available Specification TR: Technical Report UCS: Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set ___________ end of summary _____________ Lisa Rajchel ANSI 11 West 42nd Street New York, NY 10036 Telephone: (212) 642-4932 Fax: (212) 840-2298 Email: lrajchel@ansi.org >