From owner-sc35wg2+sc35wg2-domo2=www.open-std.org@open-std.org Fri Jan 31 20:34:40 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: sc35wg2-domo2 Delivered-To: sc35wg2-domo2@www.open-std.org Received: by www.open-std.org (Postfix, from userid 521) id 031343584A2; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 20:34:39 +0100 (CET) Delivered-To: sc35wg2@open-std.org Received: from rap.rap.dk (0x5551165b.adsl.cybercity.dk [85.81.22.91]) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FCD356671 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 20:34:37 +0100 (CET) Received: by rap.rap.dk (Postfix, from userid 500) id D35672A95; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 20:34:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail2.afnor.org (mail2.afnor.org [195.115.26.17]) by www.open-std.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55DD635692E; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 06:12:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail2.afnor.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by IMSA (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E89B3C8071; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 06:12:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from EXCHHUB01.intern.afnor.fr (unknown [10.100.1.231]) by mail2.afnor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215603C8069; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 06:12:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from EXCHBOITE01.intern.afnor.fr ([10.100.1.236]) by exchhub01 ([10.100.1.231]) with mapi; Fri, 31 Jan 2014 06:12:33 +0100 From: magnabosco philippe To: "Carter, James" , Andy Heath , Khalid CHOUKRI CC: ALB , "yoshikazu-seki@aist.go.jp" , "jeeink@gmail.com" , "monique.mai@orange.com" , "keld@keldix.com" , "thibault.grouas@culture.gouv.fr" , "sc35wg1@open-std.org" , mouradi amelle , "sc35wg2@open-std.org" , "sc35wg4@open-std.org" , "sc35wg6@open-std.org" , "sc35wg8@open-std.org" Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 06:12:19 +0100 Subject: RE: (SC35WG6.167) RE: (SC35WG2.26) (SC35WG1.513) RE: (SC35WG4.87) JTC1/SC35 meeting - Barcelona, week of 10 February 2014 Thread-Topic: (SC35WG6.167) RE: (SC35WG2.26) (SC35WG1.513) RE: (SC35WG4.87) JTC1/SC35 meeting - Barcelona, week of 10 February 2014 Thread-Index: AQHPHeyHnuX0JClMikiKX1tpd4T9GZqdnV6RgACsrqA= Message-ID: <596745E92980A4468D6BCAA0A3D650161A9D55A6@EXCHBOITE01.intern.afnor.fr> References: <20140128175022.50540358518@www.open-std.org> <20140130113040.6E6D23583BB@www.open-std.org> <20140130144959.A3205358314@www.open-std.org> <20140130181559.660D7358489@www.open-std.org> <20140130185310.81B9D35672F@www.open-std.org> <20140130185504.6F080358314@www.open-std.org> In-Reply-To: <20140130185504.6F080358314@www.open-std.org> Accept-Language: fr-FR Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: fr-FR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_596745E92980A4468D6BCAA0A3D650161A9D55A6EXCHBOITE01inte_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-TM-AS-Product-Ver: IMSS-7.0.0.1085-7.0.0.1014-20472.004 X-TM-AS-Result: No--58.040-5.0-31-1 X-imss-scan-details: No--58.040-5.0-31-1 X-TM-AS-User-Approved-Sender: No Sender: owner-sc35wg2@open-std.org Precedence: bulk --_000_596745E92980A4468D6BCAA0A3D650161A9D55A6EXCHBOITE01inte_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear=20all I=20confirm=20a=20Webex=20meeting=20room=20will=20be=20available=20for=20= WG=206=20throughout=20its=20meeting. Best=20regards, Philippe=20MAGNABOSCO Secr=E9taire/Secretary =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20CEN/WS=20ICT=20Skills =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20ISO/IEC=20JTC=201/SC=2035 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20ISO=20TC=2046/WG=202 AFNOR=20Normalisation=20-=20DTEC 11=20rue=20Francis=20de=20Pressens=E9 93571=20La=20Plaine-Saint=20Denis +33=20(0)1=2041=2062=2085=2002 De=20:=20owner-sc35wg6@open-std.org=20[mailto:owner-sc35wg6@open-std.org]= =20De=20la=20part=20de=20Carter,=20James Envoy=E9=20:=20jeudi=2030=20janvier=202014=2019:55 =C0=20:=20Andy=20Heath;=20Khalid=20CHOUKRI Cc=20:=20ALB;=20yoshikazu-seki@aist.go.jp;=20jeeink@gmail.com;=20monique.= mai@orange.com;=20keld@keldix.com;=20thibault.grouas@culture.gouv.fr;=20s= c35wg1@open-std.org;=20magnabosco=20philippe;=20mouradi=20amelle;=20sc35w= g2@open-std.org;=20sc35wg4@open-std.org;=20sc35wg6@open-std.org;=20sc35wg= 8@open-std.org Objet=20:=20(SC35WG6.167)=20RE:=20(SC35WG2.26)=20(SC35WG1.513)=20RE:=20(S= C35WG4.87)=20JTC1/SC35=20meeting=20-=20Barcelona,=20week=20of=2010=20Febr= uary=202014 I=20have=20informed=20the=20Chair=20and=20the=20Secretary=20that=20I=20ex= pect=20that=20we=20will=20need=20WebEx=20for=20WG6=20on=20Monday=20aftern= oon,=20all=20day=20Tuesday=20and=20for=20joint=20meetings=20on=20Wednesda= y. Regards,=20Jim ________________________________ From:=20owner-sc35wg2@open-std.org=20[owner-sc35wg2@open-std.org]=20on=20= behalf=20of=20Andy=20Heath=20[andyheath@axelrod.plus.com] Sent:=2030=20January=202014=2012:53 To:=20Khalid=20CHOUKRI Cc:=20Carter,=20James;=20ALB;=20yoshikazu-seki@aist.go.jp;=20jeeink@gmail= .com;=20monique.mai@orange.com;=20keld@keldix.com;=20thibault.grouas@cult= ure.gouv.fr;=20sc35wg1@open-std.org;=20philippe.magnabosco@afnor.org;=20m= ouradi=20amelle;=20sc35wg2@open-std.org;=20sc35wg4@open-std.org;=20sc35wg= 6@open-std.org;=20sc35wg8@open-std.org Subject:=20(SC35WG2.26)=20(SC35WG6.165)=20(SC35WG1.513)=20RE:=20(SC35WG4.= 87)=20JTC1/SC35=20meeting=20-=20Barcelona,=20week=20of=2010=20February=20= 2014 Let=20me=20throw=20something=20else=20into=20this=20picture=20-=20sorry= =20it's=20so=20late=20in=20the=20conversation=20but=20other=20work=20has= =20prevented=20me=20paying=20attention=20till=20now=20-=20there=20are=20m= any=20mails=20in=20this=20discussion=20waiting=20for=20me=20to=20read.=20= I'm=20not=20able=20to=20attend=20in=20Barcelona=20-=20if=20it's=20possibl= e=20I=20would=20like=20to=20participate=20at=20least=20in=20some=20of=20t= he=20wg's=20remotely.=20Is=20that=20possible? Andy=20Heath Sent=20from=20my=20iPad On=2030=20Jan=202014,=20at=2018:15,=20Khalid=20CHOUKRI=20>=20wrote: Hi=20Jim Carter,=20James=20wrote,=20On=2030/01/2014=2015:49: How=20is=20Philippe=20going=20to=20circulate=20a=20"a=20general=20schedul= e=20of=20the=20meetings=20of=20the=20WGs=201,2,4,6,7),"=20when=20there=20= has=20been=20NO=20consultation=20with=20the=20WG=20convenors? This=20is=20indeed=20what=20I=20did=20ask=20Philippe=20to=20do=20yesterda= y=20and=20I=20will=20make=20sure=20that=20such=20plans=20are=20shared=20w= ith=20all=20of=20us=20before=20end=20of=20the=20week=20,=20so=20I=20hope= =20to=20see=20this=20tomorrow. Of=20course=20we=20can=20still=20revise=20it=20if=20necessary=20but=20at= =20least=20I=20do=20expect=20to=20have=20a=20clear=20picture=20of=20the= =20way=20things=20are=20planned,=20coordinated=20,=20etc.=20like=20all=20= of=20us=20I=20guess; In=20order=20to=20have=20SC35=20work=20efficiently=20it=20is=20essential= =20that=20the=20needs=20of=20the=20WGs=20be=20considered. Fully=20agree=20,=20for=20me=20SC35=20is=20only=20the=20umbrella=20that= =20is=20composed=20of=20all=20WGs=20and=20it=20does=20not=20make=20sens= =20=20to=20SC35=20activities=20outside=20the=20WGs; All=20the=20best Khalid Regards,=20Jim ________________________________ From:=20owner-sc35wg4@open-std.org=20[= owner-sc35wg4@open-std.org]=20on=20beh= alf=20of=20Khalid=20CHOUKRI=20[choukri@elda.org] Sent:=2030=20January=202014=2005:30 To:=20ALB;=20yoshikazu-seki@aist.go.jp;= =20jeeink@gmail.com;=20monique.mai@orange.com;=20keld@keldix.com;= =20Carter,=20James;=20thibault.grouas@culture.gouv.fr Cc:=20sc35wg1@open-std.org;=20philippe.magna= bosco@afnor.org;=20mouradi=20amelle= ;=20sc35wg2@open-std.org;=20sc35wg4@open-std= .org;=20sc35wg6@open-std.org;=20sc35wg8@open-std.org Subject:=20(SC35WG4.87)=20(SC35WG2.20)=20(SC35WG1.507)=20JTC1/SC35=20meet= ing=20-=20Barcelona,=20week=20of=2010=20February=202014 Hi=20Alain, I=20am=20responding=20to=20this=20email=20,=20now=20that=20we=20got=20mor= e=20input=20from=20our=20secretariat, ALB=20wrote,=20On=2028/01/2014=2015:57: Le=202014-01-28=20=E0=2008:32,=20Khalid=20CHOUKRI=20a=20=E9crit=20: Well=20I=20am=20surprised=20to=20see=20that=20(and=20hope=20this=20is=20o= nly=20WG1!)=20,=20let=20us=20discuss=20it=20again=20and=20see=20how=20to= =20move=20forward. [Alain]=20=20So=20far=20I=20have=20seen=20unanimity=20of=20those=20who=20= expressed=20their=20views=20from=20other=20WGs=20as=20well=20(Seki=20San,= =20Jim,=20Monique,=20Karl,=20Keld,=20etc.).=20Nobody=20else=20said=20the= =20view=20I=20expressed=20on=20GOM=20was=20not=20the=20best=20and=20most= =20efficient=20one,=20and=20the=20one=20understood=20in=20Saskatoon=20too= =20at=20our=20infornal=20meeting.=20That=20is=20why=20I=20say=20it=20is= =20certainly=20only=20a=20misunderstanding=20between=20those=20who=20knew= =20GOMs=20and=20you,=20Khalid=20(no=20offence=20intended,=20of=20course,= =20I'm=20just=20in=20search=20of=20the=20best).=20Btw=20GOM=20is=20a=20co= ncept=20invented=20by=20AFNOR=20at=20the=20time=20(for=20meetings=20when= =20the=20secretary=20could=20not=20be=20present).=20It=20pleased=20everyb= ody.=20It=20seems=20it=20still=20pleases. I=20am=20happy=20to=20see=20that=20we=20all=20targeting=20the=20same=20ob= jective,=20though=20we=20have=20different=20approaches=20to=20achieve=20i= t.=20I=20do=20not=20think=20there=20was=20any=20misunderstanding=20about= =20the=20operations=20of=20the=20WGs,=20I=20have=20been=20briefed=20by=20= Yves=20and=20Philippe=20but=20yo=20are=20right=20(and=20I=20am=20not=20of= fended,=20I=20appreciate=20your=20fair=20and=20friendly=20involvement=20i= n=20this=20discussion),=20I=20know=20that=20I=20have=20so=20much=20to=20l= earn.=20But=20this=20does=20not=20(should=20not)=20prevent=20us=20from=20= thinking=20of=20our=20approaches=20and=20how=20to=20improve=20our=20proce= sses. I=20have=20seen=20that=20most=20of=20the=20work=20is=20done=20on=20site= =20and=20I=20would=20like=20to=20see=20more=20of=20this=20done=20during= =20the=20periods=20between=20meetings=20via=20email,=20skype,=20and=20if= =20necessary=20wikis. I=20attended=20the=20JTC1=20meeting=20last=20November=20and=20was=20surpr= ised=20to=20see=20that=20most=20of=20the=20SCs=20meet=20once=20a=20year= =20(or=20even=20less),=20many=20of=20their=20WGs=20members=20=20meet=20at= =20conferences=20for=20a=20day=20or=20two. Given=20Philippe's=20remarks=20,=20I=20suggest=20that=20we=20go=20ahead= =20with=20the=20WGs=20meetings=20(I=20have=20asked=20Philippe=20to=20circ= ulate=20a=20general=20schedule=20of=20the=20meetings=20of=20the=20WGs=201= ,2,4,6,7),=20and=20let=20us=20have=20a=20short=20meeting=20on=20Monday=20= morning=20all=20together=20to=20plan=20the=20activities=20of=20the=20week=